But in a lot of ways, it seems almost too easy. I definitely use my Khab when there's some task in a campaign or some mission where the Khab's special abilities will help get the task done more quickly. OTOH, the Grozovoi is more challenging and requires better use of tactics to succeed, rather than just running around at max speed and occasionally hitting the speed boost, while constantly pew-pew-pewing the enemy. 1 Posted FebruDelny New Tier 10 Russian TechTree Replacement Watch on Same CC as Preussen review Conclusion: Doesn't recommend getting it, just get khaba instead. The Khab can be very fun to play, and yet at the same time, it almost seems like easy mode for Russian gunboat DDs. I haven't had my Grozovoi for long and have less than 5 battles in it. On top of that, it's a demanding boat in terms of captain skills. And with only 8 km range torps, it's not that great a torpedo boat. It doesn't seem to start fires as easily as the Khab. I'm not so impressed with the Udaloi, though perhaps I don't know how to get the most out of her. Meanwhile her traditional downsides of mediocre concealment and poor knife fighting are not much of an issue anymore, since you can usually just ally up with a CV to spot for you and then wreck any DD from a range. Whats the great or compelling thing about Udaloi that might make me want. Grozovoi is a meh boat that doesnt interest me in its current state. I could get Udaloi fully upgraded this minute - if I wanted to. Udaloi and Fletcher are great ships, but Grozovoi and Gearing are just ok.imho. Overview Combining great AA, heal, a smoke, and long range gunpower, Grozovoi is incredibly resilient to CVs. I have Ognevoi fully upgraded with an 18 pt - nearly 19 pt - captain and I love this boat. Good speed but poor maneuverability, and not suited for speed tanking like Khabarovsk. High DPM and high velocity guns, but limited range. Concealment of 6.5km, only 600m worse than Gearing and Shimakaze. I didnt think about it until after I posted, but they aren't unlike Fletcher to Gearing. Yes, the Grozovoi has an interesting niche in gameplay, but requires a bit of learning to adapt to it. I keep it only to collect the T10s, but thats about it. I don't play it much but have had some great games in it. Udaloi is a very good ship, but plays more like the rest of the Soviet line than its tier VIII and X neighbors which are both oddballs (or more accurately not oddballs, i.e. The seeming discontinuity from Og to Groz might be due to both concealment and torpedoes. Just doesn't feel like it belongs between the tier 8 and 10 on its line. Honestly, the Udaloi, as currently designed, seems like a bad fit in its line between the Ognevoi and Grozovoi. Occasionally, you can get lucky with her torps, but her torps are a bit short ranged and to really use them well, you need CE, which costs you 4 skill points which detract from its guns, which are really its bread and butter. And it's rather dependent on fires to farm damage as well, so that means it's dependent on RNG. It does seem to get a pretty fair number of shatters, so maybe it needs IFHE. The Udaloi is a nice gunboat DD, but it can seem difficult to get serious damage with it, and I'm not entirely sure why.
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